Jeff Carlson and Chris Casey aka The Captain & Casey started out as a video editor and skate shop employee respectively. A few years and probably over a thousand twelve packs later, they're minor celebrities with their own show on Fuel TV. If you haven't seen The Captain & Casey show, you're missing out. Not only is it funny, but it's not embarrassing to the general skate population. Imagine that. The following interview not only illustrates how it all went down, but also shows you that these guys aren't acting. That's really how they are when you see them on TV.

48 Blocks: What were each of you guys doing before The Captain & Casey Show started?

Casey: Chicks.

48 Blocks: Where were you working?

Casey: Hot Rod of course.

Captain: You weren't working at Hot Rod.

Casey: Yeah, what did you think I was doing?

Captain: I don't know what the hell you were doing to be honest.

Casey: I worked at Hot Rod, you were...

Captain: I was sitting in a room building blocks, editing blocks. Making this trick go to there. I was making Logic videos.

48 Blocks: Give the breif story from that point to the show going on TV. How did that happen?

Casey: Funny you should ask. The Captain the other night showed me the first version of that. What was it called?

Captain: It was called Black and Blue Chills and Thrills.

Casey: It was a pay-per-view with Sal Barbier and myself. I don't know if you know about the swamp rat, but he's a master of the mouth. He's more a master of the mouth than I am to be honest with you.

Captain: Yeah, It was Casey and Sal. It was more like a news cast, it wasn't a TV show. Did I mention Black and Blue Chills and Thrills. Who came up with that by the way? I was editing that. Chris and Sal played...

Casey: We were the hosts. I played the part of Howard Cosell and Sal played the part of Charles Barkley.

Captain: His name was Walter Bertleman.

Casey: It was the WWS, the Wild World of Skateboarding.

Captain: Then it turned into Captain & Casey which Fuel bought, and I took Sal's role.

Casey: Yep, and that's when you became the true Captain of the show.

48 Blocks: When did all of this start?

Captain: 2003

Casey: We like to call it '03.

48 Blocks: What was the original concept behind the show and who's idea was it?

Casey: Reverse sobriety and apparent statements talking about skateboarding.

Captain: No, I think it was you guys, one being Matt Solomon. Solomon and Casey came up with the Captain & Casey idea and the style of the talk show.

48 Blocks: Your guys shit is definitely pretty random. What do you think the appeal is to the audience?

Casey: I think they're basically baffled by what's going on and are completely confused. It's kind of like an accident, you watch it and you want to look away but you can't.

48 Blocks: What were your expectations going into all of this?

Casey: I'll tell you the truth, The Captain actually hosted the first episode cause I passed out in the street. Anti Hero came on that day and I had consumed a little too much before the actual episode began. I began consuming beverages approximately five hours before they showed up and found myself behind a dumbster and the Captain took over the show.

Captain: Actually Frank took over the show.

Casey: Oh yeah, Frank...

Captain: That's a good episode. That was the first show by the way. We were happy to see...

Casey: We were happy to see that we made it through all of it. I think it was 12 or 13 episodes.

Captain: 13.

Casey: We were surprised that the network even stayed together.

48 Blocks: Was Fuel brand new when Captain & Casey was brand new?

Casey: We were the pilot show for the network.

Captain: The WWS was the first show to air on their network.

Casey: When you're basing your entire network on a couple of guys from St. Louis with a drinking problem you really gotta rethink things. But it worked out good for them so far.

48 Blocks: So how did you guys connect with Fuel, who hooked it up?

Casey: I'm going to say that we had some producers that we retired due to their embezzling, they're the ones. I don't want to mention their names unless there's people there with billy clubs to knock them down. I'm gonna blame it on Matt Solomon, I'll let Matt take the blame for getting us involved.

Captain: I'm gonna say no comment.

48 Blocks: How do you think the show has progressed over these five years?

Casey: The girls are getting a lot better looking that show up on there.

Captain: Yeah. It's not hard to get them there either.

Casey: They show up. We got a lot more interesting intros which I will say I have almost nothing or everything to do with. Matt Solomon has a lot to do with it.

Captain: We have a variety of guests.

Casey: You wanna say we have a spectrum, a wide spectrum.

48 Blocks: What's the best time you've had working on the show?

Casey: New York, I think I got fired in New York. That was the best one. We slept in Steve Hernandez's basement and it flooded while we were there and I thought I pissed my bed. That was the best part of the trip. Imagine waking up in New York on a floor covered in water and thinking "oh my god I pissed everywhere."

Captain: I like the little trips. I like the San Francisco trips.

Casey: But the San Francisco trips are just you leaving your door.

Captain: I know, that's why I like it. I enjoy mini trips and going back to St. Louis was fun.

Casey: Oh, t-ravs! You gotta give it up for those raviolis, a little marinara. I love St. Louis.

48 Blocks: When was the first time that you two guys met?

Casey: I would say...The Captain and I crossed paths frequently but it would be at like Splash Skate Park.

Captain: I knew who Casey was, but Casey probably didn't know who I was until we met in LA and I slept on his floor.

48 Blocks: When did each of you move to LA ?

Casey: Me, '97 I think. Hot Rod started in '96 and I came out a year after Hot Rod was open.

Captain: I have no idea. I went to Santa Barbara for awhile and then I went to LA. I was like 18 years old.

48 Blocks: You guys are out here filming a new episode for the new season, what do you have in store?

Casey: Well, Cooksie. Chris Cook out in Pacifica.

Captain: 48 Blocks, there's a segment coming on for that. It went well.

Casey: What's that place called?

Captain: 3rd & Army. We each got some tricks which is unbelievable.

Casey: They're not even called tricks, they're called feats now.

48 Blocks: When does the new season air?

Casey: I'm gonna say September or October. I like October, it sounds better.

Captain: Yeah it does.

48 Blocks: So what else are you going to work on for this season?

Casey: We're going to see if we can get Tim Bruns to come out of the closet. What else are we working on? No, Tim Bruns built the actual closet that people are coming out of.

Captain: Tim Bruns is actually crucial to the whole production of The Captain & Casey. A lot of people don't know that.

Casey: Yeah, does he still ride for Addiction skateboards with Tony Loco?

Captain: Yeah.

Casey: I like to drop names.

48 Blocks: Talk about the production aspect of the show. You guys hooked us up with Tim Dowling, we're doing an interview for our site. Who works on the show?

Captain: Solomon.

Casey: Yeah, start to finish...Matt Solomon. Then you got your Leonard Trubias, he's one of the filmers. He's usually asleep or loaded. Tim Dowling, he's the head photographer, cinematographer if you will.

Captain: We have this one guy that edits for us, Preston.

Casey: Yeah Preston, he's awesome. I'm dropping your name Preston.

Captain: Yeah, Preston. Ummmn, who else. Chris Casey, oops sorry...I can't say Chris. My publicist says I can't say Chris, I have to say Casey.

Casey: Beatle, Scott Beatle. The man, the myth, the legend.

Captain: The chaffeur, the beer buyer.

Casey: Malcolm Watson used to be the clicker. You know how you have the thing that goes click and tells you what time it is. That's what Malcolm Watson did for a solid five or six seasons.

48 Blocks: If you guys weren't doing the show what do you think you'd be doing right now?

Casey: Babes. I'd be doing babes.

Captain: I don't even want to think about that question.

Casey: Oh man, tough times. Probably Taco Bell or you might here these words from me : "thank you, come again."

48 Blocks: Do you guys get recognized on the street at all?

Casey: I got recognized by a homeless man the other day. It was pretty exciting, but if the Captain and I are together more people recognize us.

Captain: I'll tell you a funny story. I was on a boat and some guy said, "I thought the Captain would have a bigger boat." The guy that recognized me was the guy that cleaned the shitters and said, "I'm number one in number two's." That's what he told me and I go, "how did you see the show?" and he goes "randomly surfing the channels, I saw the Marina." The Marina is the start of the show.

48 Blocks: Was there anything that you wanted to do that the network wouldn't let you do?

Casey: Everything, we got shut down with having Slayer on the show, Dave Chappelle, and somebody else...oh, Queens of the Stone Age because they were like this is a skateboard show and those aren't skateboarders.

48 Blocks: Wow.

Casey: I know, wouldn't the kids of loved to have seen that.

48 Blocks: Who makes that type of call?

Casey: I'm not at liberty to say.

Captain: I'll quote Chris Cook, "beauracracy that's what it's all about."

48 Blocks: How does that work, you have to pitch every idea?

Casey: We just try to slip it in.

Captain: The ideas come from Casey, myself, Solomon, and people on the set and we just kind of do them. It's pretty spuratic. Put it this way, we're not really affected by any kind of writer's strike.

48 Blocks: Do you guys have a set contract or is it season by season?

Captain: We do the show and then we wait and see if they pick it up again. It's basically a per season contract.

48 Blocks: Do you do anything else in the off season?

Captain: You're looking at it.

Casey: Yeah, cold ones and hot ladies.