Steven Cales’ name should be recognized in skateboarding on the same level as Gino Iannucci, Keenan Milton, and Keith Hufnagel. He came up skating with those dudes, has the skill and style, and was pro for some of the best companies of his era. Unfortunately, Steven has a dark side that caused him to get locked up during some key times in his career. It’s really unfortunate that this guy never had a proper video part and kids today don’t really know who he is, cause he was definitely one of the best skaters during his time. I recently reconnected with Steven after not speaking to him for about eight or so years and was finally able to get him on the phone – the following interview is the result.

48 Blocks: Let’s start off with early New York. Where are you from out there?

Steven: I’m from Brooklyn, New York.

48 Blocks: What year did you start skating?

Steven: I started skating around ’86. I started skating because I was with my brother and my cousin out in Brooklyn and some kid had a skateboard. He was riding around and I caught an interest. I asked the kid if I could see his skateboard real quick. I hopped on it and I fell over or whatever. Anyway, I hopped up and my brother saw the joy in my face. We started to walk away and my brother walks back to where the kid is at with the skateboard. I was like, “what is he doing?” Anyway, he takes the skateboard from the kid – he just jacks him for it. Then he just gives it to me, like “you like this right – go ahead.” From then on I started skating.

48 Blocks: That was pretty much the SHUT era back then right?

Steven: Yeah, Shut was like the H-Street, whoever remembers H-Street from back then. They were like the H-street of the East Coast. They were really like… quiet as kept, whoever really knows, they were on that same level. If H-Street was around and SHUT was around, it was on – it was a nice little show. Sheffey, Mike Kepper, Brian Blake, Felix Arguelles, even Billy Waldman was killing it too.

48 Blocks: When did you first start going to Brooklyn Banks and Downtown and skating all those spots?

Steven: I can’t recall what year but it was early on, late ‘80’s. They had contests down there. By then I was all right, I would enter them and usually get first or second place in my age group. That was cool.

48 Blocks: How did you first meet Keenan? You guys were tight and you spoke in the memorial they had for him at the beginning of Yeah Right.

Steven: We clicked up skating in Manhattan, I can’t recall the exact day but everyone would skate in Manhattan from all the boroughs and Keenan was from Manhattan. Huf was from Midtown and he used to skate with Huf a lot. We met from just skating NYC. There were just so many skaters from all over the place.

48 Blocks: Did you meet Gino back then around the same time?

Steven: A little later. Gino came into the scene a little later from Long Island. He would come with Ben Liversedge – those kids ripped from Long Island. We would skate all around, we would go to Long Island, they opened the door for us to go to Long Island and hit all the spots up there.

48 Blocks: Who was your first sponsor?

Steven: I skated for Alva, I was on the B Team. Then I skated for something called Geek Attack, they made Allen Key bolts. When they first came out, the guy Herbie – he invented that stuff. He went on to sell that idea, his bolts, to World Industries. He was the first one to ever make Allen Key bolts. Anyway he had a board company called Geek Attack and I skated for that, then I skated for SHUT, then I skated for Think for a second…then I skated for World, Menace, Blue with Jason Lee and Dune. That was my first official sponsor with Jason Lee, Kareem, and Dune – I was the only amateur.

48 Blocks: You skated for 60/40 too, they had an old 411 comercial with you in it.

Steven: The order it went was Blue, they flew me out to Cali and I started skating Los Feliz. Los Feliz was the home of Fabian, Gabriel, Guy, and these LA dudes…Paulo Diaz. I skated there and started hanging with those guys and they got me on World. So I left Blue for World and then I left World for ATM with Mark Gonzales and they turned me pro.  ATM turned into 60/40 but I was in prison at that time, but I still skated for that – they still paid me. They looked out. Then I went from 60/40 to Menace.

48 Blocks: In the World Industries Box Set bonus they have all this footage of you skating Embarcadero, what’s the story behind that?

Steven: It was cool, at that time we were filming for Love Child and that footage was actually for Love Child but I had left so it didn’t get used and I never bothered to get the footage – I didn’t even care. I didn’t use it for anything else. But that time was cool, I had a lot of fun – I had a good experience with World Industries, I had a lot of help from Rodney Mullen. Skating was fun, we had the World Park. Henry was ripping it – a whole bunch of kids, Daewon, little Daniel, Spencer – all the SF cats, they were on another level too.

48 Blocks: So you were on Menace until it switched to All City, you had a board on that – I would see it in the skate shop. Then you just kind of disappeared. What was the story behind that?

Steven: The story behind that is my sick thinking. I would try to live a double life, I would be hanging out in the streets with my homeboys, then skating, then going out and partying too much. It wasn’t working like that. I ended up going to prison. They’re not gonna support somebody that’s in prison, know what I mean, they’re losing money. It’s business.

48 Blocks: So after you got out, I remember hearing this crazy story – I’m not even sure if it’s true, but I heard that you got this photo with Monica Lewinksy and sold it for some crazy dough…

Steven: Yeah that’s true. The story behind that was that I was at a bar and Monica Lewinsky was there. They used to have stars in there – it was in New York. From skating and going out since I was little, I had friends in the party world that would run the doors and we would just walk in. It was cool cause they wouldn’t let your average person up in there even though I’m average. Anyway, I was with Peter Bici that day and he had a camera. I happened to have beef with this kid that was in this party, right. I was sitting next to this girl, her name was Cameran Manheim – she was in The Practice. That was Monica Lewinsky’s friend, they were together. So, I go and sit down next to them and Peter snaps the photo. So that’s how that photo came out. After that I got up cause the guy I had trouble with came to me and we just started fighting. We shut that place down, everybody was running out – I was fighting and then all my other friends were fighting too. They put it in the Daily News, “Monica Lewinsky Bar Room Brawl!” E TV and all that shit was there the next day interviewing people. I was scared because I was on parole.  I didn’t want to go to the media and be like “hey this was because of me.” Anyway, Peter gave me the photo and I shopped that motherfucker around. I went to Russell Simmons  -  he had a magazine, their pay was too low so I was like “nah I’m out of here.” I flew to Cali and went to Keenan’s house and was skating with Gino and all them. I went to the National Enquirer. First I went to Star Magazine, but their pay was kind of cheap – so I was like “nah, I’m going to the National Enquirer, last one.” Their pay was all right you know, so I just sold the picture, got the check, and was happy!

48 Blocks: That’s wassup, that’s a come-up!

Steven: Yeah, it was a little come-up…

48 Blocks: So you’re out in Cali skating with Gino and all those dudes, then a little bit after that you started skating for Lucky and moved up to SF for a little bit. What was the time-line for that?

Steven: That was like 2001, Greg Carroll’s my friend and he knows how much I can be a knucklehead but he’s always been down for me. He was like “just come out here and live with me man, you don’t gotta pay no rent, just skate and stay out of trouble.” It was a blessing – I was on Lucky. I got on, but Henry had just got on DGK so he had left. I was kind of the older guy on the team. I guess they expected me to kind of run it, but it was cool – I got along with everybody. Jack Curtin was ripping back then and look at him now – he blew up! He’s doing his thing, he got recognized. It was cool, it was a lot of fun.

48 Blocks: I remember there was a little underground promo that never came out, you had footage in that. Do you even know where that footage is now? I kind of look for it on YouTube sometimes, but I can never find it…

Steven: Some kid I know Dennis, he has some of it.

48 Blocks: Word, so around that time I was skating with you a little bit, we were kicking it with Jeff Simmons. Everybody was headed to LA for the Yeah Right premier, then you just disappeared and nobody heard from you for a minute – maybe not even until recently. What happened?

Steven: What happened then was I was struggling with partying too much – I just wigged out, dumbed out really. I just didn’t go. When I’m like that, when I’m in that mode of self-destruction – that’s what I call it, cause that’s all you’re doing is killing yourself. When I’m in that mode I don’t come around cause I don’t want the skateboard world to see me like that. Know what I’m sayin?

48 Blocks: Yeah, you don’t want people to see you in that state.

Steven: God forbid anything would happen to me, like I got shot in the face during those times. If I would of died… I didn’t want people to see me like that, cause I took it way too far. But I’m all right now.

48 Blocks: Yeah I heard you got shot, that’s a crazy one. Then you got locked down again. When did you get out this most recent time?

Steven: Man, like a year ago. This is the longest I’ve been out for awhile and I want to stay out.

48 Blocks: That’s good man, I’m proud of you. So what have you been up to for the past year? I saw you on the internet in a clip for the Fabian Alomar documentary and some photos of you at The Berrics. Have you been skating again?

Steven: Yeah, I’ve been skating – but I recently fell off for like a month or so. I was going through some personal problems – a little break up and a loss of a newborn baby. It kinda hurt and I kinda fell back into the party thing because of that. I don’t know, but now I’m all right. Kind of clear minded and trying to go forward. Ain’t nobody gonna love me like me, know what I’m sayin’?

48 Blocks: Definitely. I think you’re one of the illest most well-rounded skaters that I’ve seen. I remember we used to skate Double Rock and you could fuck up the Euro gap just as good as you could fuck up the six or seven foot quarter pipe. How do you think skating is different now from the era that you came up skating?

Steven: When I came up in order to be pro you had to skate ramps, you had to skate everything. You’re not gonna go to the contest and just do a kick turn, you’re gonna have to be able to skate the ramps. Nowadays kids, they just turn pro for street – I’m not taking nothing from them, everybody rips. Right now these kids are killing it. I was at The Berrics and these kids were just killing it! It was just amazing.

48 Blocks: How has the response been from the skate community now that you’ve been coming around again? Do the kids even know who you are?

Steven: The older guys know me. The new kids don’t really know me, sometimes I get one or two but they don’t really know. But then when I start skating they ask me “are you pro?”

48 Blocks: You still got it? Can you still do all that shit you could do before?

Steven: Not all of it, I can do some. I haven’t skated for a little while cause of the little personal drama I’ve been going through. I’m gonna start skating now though, gonna call some people and try to get some boards.

48 Blocks: Have people been helping you out and showing you love with product when you need it?

Steven: Yeah, definitely – Tim Gavin, LRG, a lot of people look out.

48 Blocks: Dope. Any last words that you want to say to wrap this up?

Steven: Yeah I just want to say be yourself, skate, don’t get distracted by the streets and what everybody else is doing, handle your business, stay focused, stay free, and keep it one hundred you know. Rest in peace to Justin Pierce, Harold Hunter, Keenan Milton, and Pepe Martinez, that’s it – one.